Carmen looks like the kind of girl who should be teaching yoga on Instagram, not grinding on a sticky pole for drunk strangers, and that contrast is exactly what makes this game kinda hot. She starts as this disciplined dancer and gymnast, all straight spine and good-girl posture, then the game just keeps poking at her until you start asking yourself if you’re saving her or slowly turning her into a filthy little exhibitionist who gets wet the second someone calls her “slut” from the front row. You play with her three “voices” in her head, which sounds stupid at first, but actually feels like arguing with three different versions of your horny conscience. The “Good” one is like, “Please don’t suck that guy off in the VIP for extra cash,” the “Evil” one is silently unbuttoning her blouse, and Lust is already on her knees. You don’t just click a moral choice and move on either, they talk, they comment on what you did yesterday, they remember that time you agreed to sleep while the mind control creep “studied” her body for his cosplay project and suddenly that one late decision shows up again in a totally different scene, like a hangover with tits.

The sandbox part feels more like drifting than grinding. One moment you are doing a memory mini game on stage, trying to chain spins and splits so the crowd throws more money, and the next you wander into a beach event where a bunch of girls in monster girl outfits are shooting a “private” cosplay photoset. It starts all cute, cat ears and smiles, then someone pulls out a box of toys and asks if Carmen minds “helping with the tentacle shoot.” Of course she can say no, but then the club paycheck looks a lot smaller, and that rent counter in your head keeps ticking. I liked how some scenes sneak up on you. You go to the mall “just to shop” and somehow end up in a changing room threesome, with her pinned between two girls while some invisible perv on the other side of the mirror whispers suggestions into her mind, pushing light bondage ideas, telling her to keep pretending she is asleep while they lick slowly between her thighs. And when she starts enjoying the pretend sleep sex a bit too much, one of her personalities gets pissed, another is proud, and Lust just wants more fingers inside. The game is messy, sometimes too much talking, sometimes the pacing feels like waiting in a Discord voice chat that never mutes, but then you hit a crazy group scene at the nightclub, Carmen on her knees with a collar on, spit dripping from her mouth after a long oral session, ass teased with a toy while everyone around is cheering her on, and you kinda forget that the UI button in the top corner still annoys you for no reason at all.

I went into this thing thinking it was just another click-click porn game with some lazy AI gimmick, and then suddenly I was standing in the middle of this fantasy town where everybody looked alive but acted dead inside. NPCs just loop their little routines, blinking, breathing, walking to the same tavern, the same market stall, repeating one line if you poke them “the normal way”. But you’re not stuck in their rules. That’s the whole twisted charm here. You start touching stuff you’re “not supposed” to touch, opening menus you shouldn’t open, zooming into places the camera clearly wasn’t meant to go, and the game just lets you. It’s like glitch-hunting, but the glitches are horny. At one point I misclicked and ended up with my guy’s hand pressed against a monster girl’s ass in the middle of the street, nobody reacting because the script didn’t tell them to. She only “woke up” when I hit the right trigger word and suddenly we were in this private, animated scene that pretended we were still out in public. My brain was just like: bro, this is exhibitionism by technicality.

The monster girls are the best and also the part I kept screwing up with. There is this lamia priestess with these calm AI-looking eyes, like she’s one of those default faces in a character generator, pretty but weirdly clean. I’m trying to talk normal to her, click some holy dialogue option, and instead I accidentally open the “inspect” thing and now my camera is slowly sliding down her body while she repeats the same polite line, totally unaware. I felt like a creep and kept doing it again because the game kept reacting. You tilt the angle just enough and suddenly there’s a hidden prompt to grab her tail. Then you’ve got her wrapped around the hero and she’s giving him a slow, wet blowjob while still mumbling her prayer lines like an NPC stuck in a loop. Mouth full of cock, moaning between the same two holy phrases. It’s so stupid and so hot. And then later I tried to be bold with a different monster girl and the scene that popped was this really rough anal thing, animated with that slightly stiff 2D look, but the sound effects are way too juicy. My chair actually squeaked at the same time and I laughed, lost the mood for a second, then kept going anyway. Porn gamer brain, I guess.

The game keeps pretending nothing is happening around you. You strip a girl in a corner, piece by piece, while the AI still holds her default pose, and then the moment you hit the right flag she suddenly shifts, blushes, starts riding your cock like she’s been aware the whole time. No fade to black, no smooth transition, just “click, now we’re fucking”. Vaginal, oral, anal, all shoved in like the devs had a checklist and no patience for foreplay, but somehow it fits because you’re basically abusing game logic to grope and undress everyone. I got obsessed with trying to see how much I could do without “waking” them. Feeling up breasts in the crowd, sliding hands under skirts, watching the AI T-pose for a frame when a new animation loads. There’s a parody vibe too, like they know exactly how broken it all looks and lean into it. At one point I was standing in the town square, pants down, getting my dick sucked by a monster girl who technically was still “on patrol” according to her AI path, and she just rubber-banded back to her route after he came, cum still on her lips, greeting the next NPC with her default line. I should probably feel bad about how hard that made me. I don’t.

Game feels like what happens when you mix horny teenager brain with “I swear I’m mature now” energy and then throw in monster girls with asses so huge they probably need their own health insurance. You start as this awkward dude trying to figure out life, but honestly you spend more time figuring out who you wanna stuff full of cum first. The story pretends to be all emotional and “coming of age”, and yeah sometimes it actually works, then suddenly you’re balls deep in a monster MILF with tits bigger than her head, her eyes rolled back, drool on her chin, making that stupid ahegao face that still somehow hits when the animation loops just right. The switch from “serious talk about your future” to “shaking cheeks on your cock” is so fast it feels illegal and I kinda love it, even when it’s cringe.

What I like is how the game lets you be a slutty guy without calling you out for it. You flirt, you tease them, they tease you right back, and if you say the right shit, boom, she’s riding you, moaning like a whore in heat, pussy clenching when you pump her full and the creampie just stays there, dripping a bit when she tries to walk after. Some scenes are slow and soft, like the shy monster girl who pretends she doesn’t want it, twitching every time you brush her thigh, and then there’s the total opposite where the older woman is basically using you like a toy, bouncing that huge ass on you until you literally can’t see anything but meat and jiggle. A lot of it plays out like those cam chat nights where a guy says “just one more edge” and thirty minutes later he’s still begging, except here you’re the one making the choices, pushing the tension, deciding if you fill her up or pull out like a coward. There’s a tiny delay in some of the animated loops that annoys the hell out of me and I keep noticing it instead of focusing on the boobs, and it never gets fixed, it just lives there like a glitchy little mosquito, but whatever.

Best moments for me were when the game just lets scenes breathe. No rushing to the cumshot, just slow teasing, her sitting on your lap grinding through her panties, your hand on her big tits, feeling them bounce a bit every time she shifts, her voice going from playful to needy. Then suddenly she’s on her knees, mouth open, eyes wet, begging for your cock like it’s oxygen, and you forget this is supposed to be some “grow as a person” story. One time I picked the “nice guy” option thinking I’d cockblock myself, and plot twist, it opened the filthiest scene with a monster girl who looked kinda cute and then rode me like she wanted to break my hips. If you wanna squeeze every dirty drop out of it, don’t skip the boring sounding choices, touch everything, talk to everyone twice, and when a girl starts teasing, push her harder instead of going soft, because that’s where the real nasty stuff unlocks and where the animations actually feel like a live cam show that went too far in all the right ways.

This one hits in a weird spot, like PornHub met some quiet BBC village drama and then both got drunk together. You’re a male chef who moves into this tiny northern England place, and everything is a bit damp, a bit boring, and then suddenly there’s a milf breathing down your neck in a restaurant kitchen while you’re trying to not burn the risotto. The whole vibe is slow at first, you’re just chopping onions, cleaning plates, doing little work shifts, listening to NPCs talk about nothing special, and then it just flips the switch and you’re getting a sloppy blowjob behind the counter during closing time. Felt way too real when I paused to check Discord and came back to the MC with his cock out while the waitress was “helping him relax” before service.

What actually got me hooked was how the lewd stuff is tied to dumb everyday tasks. You’re not running around grinding levels, you’re grinding shifts. The milf that basically owns the social life of the village? At first she’s just teasing you with that casual dom vibe, hand on your shoulder, calling you “boy” in front of others, then casually making you stay late to “finish the prep”. Next scene she’s pressing you against the stainless steel table, nails digging in, talking shit in your ear while she jerks you off with one hand and holds a knife in the other like she’s judging the carrots. It’s not hardcore femdom, more like that confident older woman who knows you’re horny as fuck and uses it. Then later, she has you on your knees giving her a foot massage and out of nowhere her toes are wrapped around your dick and she’s acting like that’s the most normal thing in the world. I hated that I loved it. Or maybe I loved that I hated it, I’m not sure.

The side stuff gets wild. There’s this monster girl that just kind of happens after some goofy village rumor quest, and she’s not “rawr I’m scary”, she’s hot and weird and a little clingy. One moment you’re fishing with some dumb mini game, next moment she’s dragging you behind some rocks and licking you like she’s taste testing a new menu item. Her blowjob scene is messy, noisy, and the camera lingers way too long on the spit, which for me is top tier, but some people will probably think it’s gross. There’s also this coworker in the restaurant who starts off bantering with you about orders and tips, and then later on she’s awkwardly offering to “practice” in the staff room. First time you get her naked she insists it’s “only hands” and you sit there watching the animation of this shy girl doing a clumsy handjob while pretending she’s not into it. On replay that scene kinda dragged, but on the first run I legit forgot my coffee on the desk and it went cold because I was trying to hit the right dialogue line to push it into oral. The funniest bit is how casual the humor is around all this, like the game keeps making jokes about health inspections while you’ve just finished banging someone on the prep table. Sometimes the pacing is totally fucked, like you go from heavy romance moment with soft kissing and slow vaginal sex to a stupid joke about burnt chips in the next click, and it breaks the mood, but also it kinda fits this awkward village porn fantasy. If you want to really squeeze all the spicy scenes out, my tip is: talk to everyone after every shift, even the boring ones, and never skip the “small talk” options. That’s where the lesb stuff and random masturbation scenes hide, in those side conversations you’d normally mash through. Just don’t expect everything to escalate fast, sometimes you’re edging more than the protagonist is.

Luna walks into Blue Bells like she took a wrong turn out of a cozy fairy tale and landed in the world’s horniest small town that pretends it’s pure. She’s this bubbly Fey girl who honestly thinks being the “village bicycle” is some kind of heroic title, like knight of the round ass or something. She’s glowing, soft, stupidly cute, tits practically fighting gravity, ass that looks like it should have its own zip code, and absolutely no idea what “celibacy cult” actually means. The town smiles, pretends they’re all chaste and holy, and meanwhile every second conversation is one stiff breeze away from someone snapping and pinning her to the nearest surface. The whole vibe is like a cozy pastoral anime got drunk, fucked a tentacle horror story, and woke up in an adult VN with bad decisions and multiple endings.

The fun part is how the game keeps teasing you with Luna’s “innocent” logic. She wants to make everyone happy, she’s polite, she tries to be proper, then you nudge her lust a bit higher and suddenly “proper” means kneeling between a frustrated nun’s thighs or letting some “monster girl” with too many eyes and a tongue way too long lick her from knee to clit while she pretends this is all cultural exchange. One moment she’s refusing to flash a stranger because it’s “immodest”, next moment she’s out in the open fields, skirt hiked up, tits bouncing while she rides a girl from the cult like she’s trying to summon the gods with her pussy. The management angle sneaks in quietly. You’re juggling her time, picking where she works, who she flirts with, pushing charm or fitness or knowledge, which sounds dry until you realize one extra point somewhere is the difference between a soft, awkward first kiss in a back room and getting pressed against a stained glass window, tongue in her mouth, fingers buried deep, the two of them trying not to moan loud enough for the priest downstairs to hear.

Sex scenes hit that weird sweet spot between silly and hot. Luna brings toys into things like she just found them in a gift bag. She pulls out a vibrator in front of a “pure” town girl and treats it like showing off a cool rock. Next thing you know they’re both on the floor, panties pushed aside, grinding on each other while the buzzing thing is trapped between their drenched pussies, both pretending “oh no, we shouldn’t” while their hips say “too late”. Oral stuff is all over the place, but it’s not just “hey, here’s a blowjob, clap now”. Sometimes she’s worshipping another woman’s thighs first, kissing the soft skin, nibbling, groping that big ass like it’s a holy object, taking her time until the girl is begging to be eaten out. Sometimes she looks up at you with those wide eyes, cum dripping from her lips after a sloppy creampie cleanup, and you can practically hear her thinking “did I do good?” in that half-lost, half-corrupted way. The game leans hard into corruption without making her feel broken. More like she starts out thinking sex is a job and ends up realizing she actually craves the voyeur stuff, the groping in public, the way her body reacts when she’s on display. There’s this scene where she has to walk through town in a too-short dress with no panties and “act natural”, and the camera just lingers on how wet she’s getting, how her thighs shine, how she flinches when a breeze hits. You know she’s pretending to be shy while secretly hoping someone notices.

Humor keeps cutting through all the filth. Some of the lines land perfectly stupid. A cultist girl complaining that “swallowing is a sin” while Luna is on her knees, tongue out, ready to “help with spiritual problems”. A monster girl casually talking about “snacks” while fingering Luna, then going “no no, I mean cookies” with her whole arm up to the wrist inside. The writing sometimes trips over itself, like it can’t decide if it’s a horny comedy or a slow corruption spiral, and honestly I like that mess. The animated bits help a lot, too. Watching her hips actually roll when she’s riding, seeing her tits sway during a rough vaginal pounding, or how her toes curl when someone eats her out from behind while she leans on a shrine. Some loops are a bit janky, like the timing is off by a beat, and her hair twitches weirdly right when the thrusts get good, which annoyed me enough that I started noticing it every time. There’s also this tiny UI thing where you’re trying to chase a specific route and the game casually locks a choice behind a stat you barely used, and suddenly you’re stuck with a different girl or a different sex toy than you wanted, and it feels unfair but also kind of fitting, like Luna’s fate just keeps pushing her toward being more of a slutty goddess than a dutiful fairy. Anyway, the whole town slowly shifting from “we don’t fuck” to “we fuck Luna” while an eldritch thing stirs somewhere in the background is very on-brand. And if you miss a scene, the game doesn’t hold your hand much. It just shrugs and asks who else you want her to make happy next.

Honestly, *My Demonic Romance* looks cheaper than it plays. The mobile menu feels like one of those failed dating apps where buttons pretend they do something deep, but you end up tapping for pure curiosity. Then suddenly the succubus girl – Lily, I think? or Lila? Hell knows – basically breathes down your neck through the screen. She talks like she owns the air between every word, like “hey, you going to class or just melt for me?” and somehow you *do* melt. Her animation flickers sometimes, which almost ruins it, but then she bends over the desk in that school outfit with the tail twitching and, I swear, bug or not, it’s art. Or maybe my phone’s cracked screen made her eyes look wetter, who knows.

The whole thing tries to look like a harmless school-life sim at first, but it doesn’t even last to the first midterm before she’s “testing your stamina.” That’s literally what the dialogue box says. And yeah, the groping minigame? surprisingly responsive. Or too responsive - once I mis-tapped, and his hand went way lower than intended. Didn’t complain though. Voice lines hit weirdly honest; she moans, giggles, and then asks if humans really blush this much when they’re about to fail a class. Kinda philosophical in a stupid way. Somewhere between horny and tragic, like watching a cat play with yarn that might bite back. I liked that mood. Or maybe I didn’t. Hard to tell when every three minutes you’re back to undressing someone who’s technically a monster.

People keep saying the ending slides are repetitive, and yeah, they are. But some of those looks she gives while half-lit by classroom neon? You remember them. The writing isn’t shy, her tail gets its own personality eventually, and the “swinging” rumor you read on Reddit? Slightly exaggerated. Or maybe I missed the trigger path for it. Play it upside down if you want extra spice - it somehow feels filthier that way. If you can forgive small bugs and your own reflection showing in the black parts of the screen during those scenes (super awkward, trust me), then just… let the demon take the blame for everything that follows.

This thing feels like someone spliced together horny fanfic, Minecraft memes and cheap hentai logic, then just tossed you in and said “yeah, figure it out while you’re hard.” You’re basically Steve, pixel block boy with permanent blue balls, wandering around a cubic world where almost everything wants to fuck you, milk you, eat you, or all three at once. One second you’re punching trees, next second a stacked creeper-girl with huge green tits is pinning you to a wall and making you “pay” for entering her biome with a messy blowjob that doesn’t even pretend to be realistic. It’s crude, it’s kind of stupid, and it knows exactly what it is.

The funny part is how the normal survival stuff keeps getting hijacked by porn logic. You open your inventory, planning to craft tools, then notice one random item is literally “bottle for milk.” You ignore it, go mining, get jumped by this pale spider girl with a body like cosplayer on OnlyFans, and suddenly she’s riding you and filling that same damn bottle with her milk while you can’t even move. Later you finally craft a bed, thinking “okay, sleep, progress,” but the bed has “events,” and the event is a milf villager with ridiculous boobs climbing on top and starting slow cowgirl while your HP bar almost disappears. There’s this weird rhythm where you try to play it serious, like a normal block game, then some horny monster girl drags you into a lesbian scene you’re not even controlling anymore, just clicking lazily on your phone screen like “yeah yeah, suck her nipples, skip, no don’t skip, wait, go back.” On Android it feels even dirtier, by the way, just sitting in a bus with brightness low, pretending you’re reading Telegram while a futa slime girl is facefucking Steve and dripping all over him. That scene with the slime futa using her sticky cum like glue to pin your character to a crafting table honestly stayed in my head way longer than it should. The animations are rough, but the physics on all the jiggle and fluids are just good enough so you keep watching, even while thinking “this is so cheap.” And then you tap again. And again.

What I like the most, weirdly, is how the game never pretends to have any morals. You fuck monster girls, they milk you, sometimes you milk them, some are actual milfs with soft voices, some look half-demonic, some have cocks bigger than Steve’s whole body and they use him like a toy. You walk into a dark cave expecting a jump scare, you get a tall futa ender-type girl grabbing your blocky head with both hands and forcing a deepthroat while your stamina bar drains. Sometimes there’s a quick-time thing, sometimes it’s just “sit there and watch Steve swallow.” The lesbian stuff kind of sneaks up on you too: early on there’s a scene where two busty villagers start making out and rubbing each other, and if you craft the right item you can join, if you don’t, they just keep going without you and you’re stuck watching like some horny spectator. I wish the crafting system actually mattered more, not just “build item, unlock sex scene,” but also I know they’re not changing it and I’ll still click the recipe anyway. There’s this dumb little detail where certain girls lactate more if it’s night and you’ve taken damage recently, and I spent way too long testing that like a degenerate scientist, running around half naked, getting slapped by mobs just to see if the milf cow-girl would gush more when she sat on my face. It made no sense, I loved it, then I hated it, then I opened it again on Chrome in incognito without thinking. And yeah, half the dialogue feels like it came from Pornhub comments written by teenagers, but then one line lands perfectly, like the witch girl whispering “you only survive here because we want your cock busy,” right before she jerks you off with one hand and forces another monster girl to lick the cum off. I actually had to pause there. Just to, you know. Reflect.

John is exactly that type of guy you hear breathing into the mic on Discord all night, then pretending he’s “totally fine” in real life. Just a quiet loser on the way to school, horny, tired, stuck in his head, using anime and hero shows as porn and therapy at the same time. The game starts like that, really low-key, almost boring on purpose, and then suddenly it slaps you with this weird accident and a creepy pretty boy that feels like he walked out of a cursed gacha ad. After that, reality stops behaving. John’s body, his thoughts, even how he looks at girls around him starts twisting. You’re still in a normal school on paper, with uniforms and classrooms and dumb group projects, but the vibe switches to “what if My Hero Academia got hijacked by a horny ghost with zero morals.” Superpowers here are less “save the world” and more “how far can we push this poor bastard’s lust before something breaks.”

What surprised me the most is how the erotic stuff actually carries emotion instead of just being checkbox porn. You get these scenes where a girl is trying to be sweet and romantic, kissing him slow, whispering like she’s scared of losing him, then the next moment she’s on her knees, taking him in her mouth like she’s starving and the script suddenly gets way more dirty. I liked that clash a lot. Sometimes the voice lines go from shy to filthy on a single breath, like “I love you” followed by “fuck me deeper” with no pause, and you can hear the actress almost stumble on the transition. It feels raw as hell, not polished, but kind of hot because of that. There’s this one monster girl with huge tits and this almost maternal tone, and when she starts talking about “keeping him inside forever” while riding him, the moans have this weird caring sound that made me a bit uncomfortable and turned on anyway. Vaginal, anal, oral, all there, creampies everywhere, but with small acting choices that stuck with me, like a tiny hitch in her voice when she feels him finish, or that shaky breath after she admits she likes being used. At the same time, a couple of lines sound like they were recorded on a cheap Blue Yeti next to a running PC fan and it made me open Audacity out of instinct. And then I still replayed that scene three times.

The possession angle is where the sex scenes get messed up in a good way and also where I got the most annoyed. There are moments when John is not totally driving his own body, and the script leans into that: he’s suddenly more confident, grabbing a girl’s ass in public, pushing her up against the wall, saying things he would never dare to say. From a voice acting side, it’s cool because you get to hear the same girl react to “normal John” and “something-is-wrong John.” Soft, awkward kisses in one route, then the same mouth being forced open and filled in another, with her moans trying to hide the panic. Some players will scream “non-consent, trash,” others will call it the best part; this is exactly the type of content that blows up arguments on Reddit. There is at least one scene with a monster girl pinning him down, taking control, riding him until he pumps her full and you hear this messy, wet sound while she talks about keeping his seed, and it’s ridiculously over the top but the actress sells the hunger in her voice. I loved it. I hated it. I wish they toned down a few of the screaming orgasms because they peak the mic and hurt my headphones, but they also feel a bit too real to fully complain. Multiple endings mean you can lean into romance, into corruption, or into full-on paranormal horny chaos, and the tone of the moaning and dirty talk shifts just enough between paths that you notice the difference if you’re the kind of freak who listens more than watches. I am. The game honestly feels like someone took a My Hero Academia doujin, gave it a cursed AI brush-up, then hired voice actresses from three different countries and told them “just be horny, we’ll fix direction later” and somehow that messy approach works better than it should.

Game starts with this guy walking out of prison, and it already feels messy in a good way. He’s not some cool superhero, he’s pissed, confused, still kind of broken, and also ridiculously horny at the worst possible moments. You’re thrown into this mix of murder-mystery and pure perv fantasy where your dreams are not just dreams, they’re like drunk portals into crazy other worlds. One moment you’re talking to a serious MILF with a “I pay my bills on time” face, next moment you’re standing in front of a monster girl with glowing eyes and tits that look like they’re about to cause property damage. Somehow the game makes it feel normal that you can go from talking about your dead father to getting a sloppy blowjob in a half-ruined sci‑fi corridor lit by weird neon.

What I really liked is how the game keeps switching tones without warning. You’re in this quiet scene, sitting on a couch with a girl who used to know your dad, she’s asking about your time in prison, you’re thinking “ok, serious moment now”, then she crosses her legs and her skirt rides up just a bit too high, and the camera stays there a few seconds longer than it should. There is so much teasing. Girls masturbate when they think you’re not watching, but you are watching, because of course you are, the whole voyeur thing is strong here. You get POV shots when you eat them out, when they ride your face, when they ride your dick, when they grind that big ass on you until you forget there was even a plot. There is anal, there is titfucking, there is full creampie with that stupidly loud ahegao face that makes you roll your eyes and still click “again”. One scene with a cosplayed elf girl using a glowing sex toy like it’s some legendary artifact is still stuck in my head, mostly because the toy has more visual detail than one of the side characters’ faces. Priorities.

The harem part creeps up slowly. At first it feels like “ok, romance, I’ll pick one route”, then suddenly you’re juggling a stacked milf, a shy virgin with insane potential, a sarcastic monster girl who wants to choke you and get choked, and a dominant chick who will literally put her foot on your chest during a blowjob just to remind you who’s in charge. And weird thing, the game lets you switch between male domination and female domination vibes without making a big deal about it. One night you have a girl kneeling, drooling on your cock, begging for your cum, the next night you’re the one being used like a toy, her toes stroking your shaft while she scrolls on her phone like this is just Tuesday. The humor hits in strange places too: in one dream sequence you unlock some random superpower, absolutely wild, and you think it will be a big thing for combat or something, but it ends up mostly helping you undress girls faster and blast a monster’s bikini off. There is this tiny UI sound when you choose where to cum that drives me crazy because it’s slightly delayed, like half a second late, and I swear it ruins my rhythm every damn time and they’re never going to fix it. Still, when you’re balls deep in some interracial group scene with two girls licking your shaft and another one guiding you inside her dripping pussy in POV, you kind of stop caring if the little button sound is off. Or you care a lot, but your hand keeps clicking anyway.