Quiet street, nice houses, hedges cut perfect, and everyone is horny as hell but trying to pretend they’re not. That’s the vibe here. You play this thick Latina mom who just moved in with her family, and she’s got this big soft ass and tits that barely fit in anything normal. She’s trying to be “good woman”, good mother, all that, but every time she steps outside some neighbor is watching her, or she “accidentally” bends over too slow, or the yoga pants are one size too tight. At first she acts shy about it, but you feel how she starts to like all these eyes on her body. There’s this early moment where she’s just taking the trash outside, a little sweaty, shirt stuck to her boobs, and you can tell the neighbor is staring from his window. She pretends not to notice, but she doesn’t fix her top either. That’s when the game hooked me. Just simple daily shit turning into porn in your head.

What I like is that it’s not just sex falling from the sky. Half the time you’re just choosing how much she lets people see, like “do I pull the towel higher or lower” after a shower when the neighbor suddenly knocks. And then slowly she starts pushing it more, teasing on purpose. The story keeps this weird tension, everyone in the neighborhood is acting polite but you feel like they all want a piece of her. The rich guy across the street, his bitchy wife, the creepy dude next door, even people that should absolutely not be checking her out still do. You control if she plays along or shuts it down, but even when you try to keep her “pure”, the game keeps putting her into messed up voyeur moments. There’s a scene where she’s just watering the plants, no bra, light top, and some kid’s dad straight up pretends to be on the phone while staring at her nipples. It’s so wrong and somehow hot in that dirty suburban way. Only thing that annoyed me like crazy is her walk animation in the yard, she looks like she’s trying not to shit herself, but I kept watching anyway because the ass jiggles in a nice way. I complain but I still replayed it.

Later it gets spicier when the family drama and the romance crap mix with all this exhibition stuff. The husband is kinda there but kinda not, he feels weak, like a background NPC half the time, which weirdly makes it easier to push her into taboo stuff with the neighbors and the other “important” people who run the area. You start to see who is pulling strings in this suburb and who just wants to pull her panties. Some choices feel tiny in the moment, like “do you close the curtains before changing” or “do you sit closer to him on the couch”, and then two scenes later you realize someone saw you and is using that to push her further. It’s like a sandbox of slow corruption with romance flavor, where a milf who wants a calm family life gets turned into the secret slut of the block, or maybe she becomes this smart teasing queen who uses her body to climb higher, depending how you play it. I kinda wished there was less talking and more straight up fucking sometimes, the build up is long and I got horny way earlier than the game wanted, but at the same time that slow burn is exactly why that first time she really shows everything to someone feels nasty and powerful as hell. You think “ok this is too far now” and then click the dirtiest choice anyway.

Heavy metal sky, poison fog somewhere far under your feet, and you stuck on this floating rust bucket where everybody pretends they’re professional and noble until the lights go dim and belts come off. That’s the vibe here. You’re the new guy on the elite resource crew, supposed to be all serious with scanners and oxygen levels and “mission focus,” but half your brain is already thinking about that mechanic girl in the hangar who keeps “checking” your harness straps way too slow. On the surface it’s all sci-fi gear, suits, fancy tools, but between trips it turns into something closer to a porn hub search history that learned how to walk. You go from briefing room to blowjob in a storage closet faster than Discord goes from “hey guys” to full rule 34. Some of the scenes hit hard out of nowhere too. One moment you’re watching the airship drift through this neon green cloud, listening to some low hum like a chill lo-fi playlist, next moment you’re on your knees between someone’s thighs, hands tied to a pipe, feeling her thighs push your face deeper while she rides your mouth like it’s the last oxygen tank on the ship. The animation has this slightly off timing sometimes, which weirdly makes it feel more real, like when a horny cam model’s camera lags on Chaturbate and your brain just fills in the movement anyway.

What I liked is how the sex isn’t just “reward unlocked, congrats, here is generic pose number three.” There’s this scene after a rough mission where you stumble back to your bunk, sweating, gear still half on, and this older officer follows you in, locks the hatch, pushes you to sit, then just sinks down on your cock without a word. No slow fade, no speech, just this desperate grind. You feel the airship tilt a bit, alarms muffled in the background, and she clamps down on you right when some turbine roars outside. She rides you hard, nails digging into your shoulders, and when she makes you cum inside her, it doesn’t cut away. She just stays there, full of you, breathing heavy, one gloved hand on your chest, and you see your cum leak out slowly when she finally lifts off and tells you to “suit up again, hero.” That creampie shot with the light from a cracked porthole flickering over her skin honestly stuck in my head more than the big “story” moment before it. Funny thing, the UI color drives me crazy, by the way, this weird shade that looks like someone tried to copy Spotify in low light and failed. Anyway, the BDSM bits start almost playful then escalate, like the first time they strap you to that inspection table “for a safety scan” and suddenly the restraints tighten more than they need to. There’s a scene where they gag you with an air filter strap and use you until you’re basically just a toy, and at the same time the game pretends it’s still about keeping the city alive. It lies. This thing is about mouths full of cock in maintenance shafts, messy cream dripping onto cold metal floors, and that strange feeling when you’re hanging from a cable over the toxic fog thinking about how good it felt when the captain’s boot pressed between your shoulder blades while she rode you from behind and told you you’re just another resource to extract.

This one feels like you woke up in some cheap fantasy hentai, but everyone accidentally got way more backstory than expected. You start as the usual dude with too many women orbiting him, but the moment that witch girl walks into your house, the whole family vibe flips. She’s all mysterious and smug, pretending she’s just passing by, and five minutes later she is basically tangled in the daily life of your mother, your sisters, those twins who are a bit too touchy for “just siblings”, and even that MILF neighbor who keeps bending over right in front of the window like she’s doing an OnlyFans preview. The game leans hard into the first person stuff, like it really wants you to feel that she is staring straight into your eyes when she jerks you off slowly, whispering about “changing fate” while your cock is the only thing actually changing. And the magic? Mostly an excuse to have girls flashing tits at the worst possible time, teleporting into bathrooms, and “accidentally” mind controlling someone into stripping in the living room while the rest of the family walks past.

Sex scenes hit that messy, not-romantic-at-all mood I like. First blowjob with the witch is not some clean, perfect porn thing. She gags a little, drool everywhere, her mascara almost running, and she keeps looking up with that crazed ahegao face like she’s half drunk on cum and half trying to see your future in your dick. There is this group moment later, where the twins corner you in the hallway, one pressing your hand on her ass while the other slowly guides your cock between her thighs, using her body like a warm toy. They tease you to pick who gets the creampie, but of course the game is a tease too and drags it out, tossing in the witch spying from the stairs. She pretends she is just “observing destinies” while fingering herself. That scene stuck in my head, mostly because of how fucked it gets when the camera stays glued to your POV and you only catch glimpses of boobs and asses around you, like a chaotic harem storm. Also, the sound sliders are a small thing, but cranking up the moans and lowering the text box opacity on my phone felt oddly satisfying. I was playing on Android Chrome, half-screened while fake-working on Google Sheets, and I almost tapped the wrong window when one of the girls started yelling your name during anal. Still a bit annoying you need to pause and dig into the menu for the gallery, but then you open it and realize you already missed two scenes because you picked the “nice” option earlier. Fate is a bitch, yeah, but that’s kind of the point here. Everyone smiles, flirts, jokes, you think it’s all comfy romance, and then the story drops some darker hint about people dying in other timelines and you suddenly notice how clingy the witch is, how she talks about “keeping you” like you’re a pet. Sex keeps getting hotter, more daring, more exhibitionist stuff, peeking on girls masturbating through cracked doors, titfucking in the kitchen while someone walks by behind the frosted glass. The more the harem grows, the more it feels like you are walking toward a bad end that will taste amazing going down. Honestly, if this game doesn’t end in tears, curses and a broken family, I’ll be a little disappointed.

Guy wakes up naked in a giant smoking hole in the ground, memory wiped, dick working fine, moral compass already kind of on strike. That’s your hero. No chosen one speech, no destiny, just “who the hell am I” followed by “ok but whose tits are those over there” very fast. The story follows that vibe all the way: half confused adventure, half pervert travel blog. Every time you think “ok, now it gets noble and heroic”, the game throws you some horny widow with huge tits asking for “help” while her husband is literally in the next room snoring like a pig.

The world is this weird fantasy mix that acts all mysterious and serious for like two lines, then you’re balls deep in someone you probably shouldn’t even be making eye contact with. One moment you’re talking with some high elf priestess about fate and the strange crater you crawled out of, next thing she’s on her knees with mascara running, mumbling prayers around your cock. And the game doesn’t even pretend to be shy: anal, foot stuff, toys, cosplay outfits that look like they were ordered from the cheapest part of AliExpress, blackmail scenes where you’re thinking “he really went there, ok.” There is voyeur stuff out of nowhere too. You “accidentally” see people fucking, then later you can decide if you just keep watching, join, or pretend to be a respectable person and leave. Guess which option is clearly not the point.

Whole dating sim layer sits on top of it like one of those shitty fancy cakes. You do dialogues, give gifts, pick “romantic” answers, then ten minutes later you are choking the same girl with your hand while she’s in a maid cosplay and pretending she doesn’t like it. Romance and corruption sit right next to each other and keep changing places. One route has this sweet, shy girl who looks like she should be in soft romance stuff, and your choices slowly push her from blushing kisses and handjobs to getting filmed while you fuck her asleep, with a gagged “boyfriend” watching helpless from the corner. And he deserves it, but also damn. The game acts like “oh this is a tender moment” while you’re literally using a vibrator on her in front of him. I laughed, not sure that was the correct reaction.

Family stuff is there too, tiptoeing on that “we are not saying it directly but everyone knows what is going on” line. You meet a “landlady”, a “aunt”, a “older sister type” with the biggest ass the engine can handle. They all have that slightly too familiar energy, like “we’re related enough that this should be a problem, but not enough that the dev wants to get banned.” Some routes let you go full NTR bastard: you slowly steal them from the guys around them, or just fuck them behind their backs while the poor idiots talk about “trust” and “true love” in the next tavern. There is one very specific scene where you get a girl drunk, let her fall asleep next to you, then decide if you just watch her masturbate in her sleep, or you go further and, yeah, take what you want. Game barely pretends this is a moral choice. It knows exactly what you clicked.

What I like and hate at same time is how the protagonist can act almost nice in dialogue, asking about feelings, talking about the mystery of the crater, then two clicks later you’re using a collar and leash on a milf that earlier tried to mother you. One path lets you keep her “pure”, another lets you train her into cock add*cted slave who will take anal in public just because you snap your fingers. The exhibition stuff goes too hard sometimes, like you’re fucking on a balcony while random guards pretend they don’t see, or you shove a dildo into a girl before sending her to some serious story meeting, and the game keeps cutting to her trying to keep a straight face while you hold the remote. World saving, but with remote control butt plug, sure. The plot about who you are and why that crater exists keeps popping up between all of this, like the dev suddenly remembered there was supposed to be a story, then gets distracted again by a pair of big tits bouncing in 3D. And I am not complaining. Well, I am, about one thing: the main menu music is annoying as hell and I can’t stop humming it while watching yet another “accidental” cheating route blow up a happy couple from inside. Literally from inside.

You wake up in this cheap looking lakeside cabin, phone still in your hand, and the first thing on the screen is that stupid little trivia app they make you use. At first you think it is just some normal quiz thing, like the junk you play in the bus, but it starts asking really pointed questions. Sex stuff, movies, some random history, then suddenly “what color panties are you wearing” and the MC in game actually looks down to check. That is when it clicks that the questions are not just text, they control what happens in the room. Every right answer gives you a little power, every wrong answer strips another piece of her dignity away, piece of clothing after piece of clothing, with this quiet lake outside the window like it is judging everything.

The main girl has this huge ass that the camera just keeps loving. You answer one stupid question about geography wrong and boom, shorts gone, and she is there in tight panties that are clearly not built for hiding anything. You cannot even pretend you are here for anything except watching her slowly lose the fight. The quiz keeps escalating. First it is light trivia, then it becomes stuff where you are half guessing, half trying to aim the outcome. Like, you know the answer, but you kinda want to see what happens if you “fail”. I had one moment where I purposely picked the wrong capital city just to see if the game really would make her walk to the door and peek out into the night in just her bra. It did. She opens it a crack and you get that side-shot of her big tits barely contained, nipples poking the fabric, and the dark outside like someone could be spying. Maybe they are. The game never fully says, and I like that. Or maybe I hate that. Not sure.

Thing is, it pretends to be “just a trivia test” but actually it is more like a slow, mean strip show mixed with some voyeur stuff. The phone becomes this nasty little host, asking if you want “another round” and flashing wrong answers in big letters so she blushes even more. Sometimes the app vibrates when you answer, totally pointless detail, but somehow made me feel like I was actually messing with her through the screen. I kept trying to get a perfect run and at the same time I kept sabotaging myself because the view when she bends over to pick up her top from the floor is insane, that ass is ridiculous. I left the sound on my own phone in real life by accident and the little notification ping from the in-game quiz overlapped with my Telegram pings, confused me for a second, kind of funny, kind of annoying, and then I forgot about it. The tension is not from big plot twists or something deep, it is just “how far is this girl willing to go if the questions keep coming” and “what if somebody at the lake house is actually watching from the trees while you push her into more and more public exposure.” It feels trashy and clever at the same time, which makes no sense, but that is exactly why I could not stop tapping through questions, half trying to protect her, half trying to see what happens when you fail her on purpose.

There’s something oddly raw about this game that got my attention right away. You start as this young guy who finally runs away from a place that basically hates everything he is, and the game really leans into that feeling of being horny, scared, and excited in the same moment. It’s not subtle. The first scenes after he arrives in the new city already feel like that messy mix: he’s jerking off alone in a shitty room, scrolling Grindr and Scruff on his cracked phone, half terrified someone from the old country will see him, half desperate to get fucked senseless by the first older guy who sends him a pic. The camera lingers on his face more than on his cock at first, which I actually liked, since you can see that tension: he’s ashamed, but he can’t keep his hand off himself. Then the game slowly starts pushing him into contact with these older guys, these proper DILF types, each one a different flavor of controlling, sweet, manipulative or just bored and horny. It’s not a fluffy romance at the beginning, more like: who will own this kid’s body first. And he’s into it, that’s the thing. He pretends he’s just “trying things”, but he’s hard every time some graying, thick-armed man calls him “good boy” or tells him to shut up and swallow.

From animation / cutscene side, it looks like the dev had a lot of ideas and maybe not enough time, which somehow fits the story. Expressions are surprisingly specific: when the main guy gets pushed on his knees for the first blowjob with that bearded neighbor, his eyes do this quick flick from the door to the cock, like he’s wondering if he can still back out, then you see his throat work when he swallows his fear and leans in. There’s a nice little detail where the older man’s hand pets his hair first, then tightens a bit too much once the kid starts taking it deeper. The 3dcg is not perfect; sometimes the mouths look weird in side view, and there’s a sex scene on the couch where the protagonist’s hip clips into the cushion in a way that made me snort, but honestly that kind of broken thing made it feel more personal, less polished porn and more like some horny artist just kept going at 2 coffees too many. There are a few romance routes where you actually have to decide if you want the safer, “boyfriend material” older guy who buys you snacks and calls you cute, or the more twisted one who tells you he’ll help you with papers if you let him fuck you raw whenever he wants. Those choices hit harder than I expected, especially when a soft, cuddly cutscene later suddenly turns into him being pinned down on the bed, his wrists held above his head while he pretends he doesn’t like being used and you know he’s lying to himself and no one else.

What I enjoyed most is how the corruption feels emotional, not just “he was innocent, now he sucks dick like a pro.” You can see the shift in small scenes. Like there is a quiet moment after he gets ghosted by a guy he really liked, and the next cutscene is him doing a video call jerkoff with some random daddy from a hookup app, camera pointed directly at his ass while he fingers himself on a cheap chair. The animation dwells on the way he checks his own reflection in the laptop screen, kind of lost, kind of proud that he can make grown men beg in chat. It’s hot and a bit sad at the same time. That dual feeling pops up a lot: one route has him cuddling in bed with a more romantic guy after a slow, almost vanilla fuck, his face buried in chest hair like he finally found a home, and literally in the next scene you can push him to cheat, spreading his legs for another man in a public shower, water running down his back while a rough hand clamps over his mouth to keep him quiet. I wish the sound design was better there, the moans feel a little canned sometimes, but then a look he gives, that half-guilty smile when he realizes he likes being controlled, saves the whole thing. It’s messy, horny, sometimes awkward, with a protagonist who starts out scared of his own dick and ends up jerking off confidently on camera while an older guy orders him around. I kept noticing tiny animation glitches and misaligned kisses, then suddenly there was this one angle of him riding his favorite DILF, sweaty and flushed, eyes locked, and I forgot every little complaint I had until the next stiff hand pose snapped me back.

Office door closed, Slack set to “in a meeting,” I open this thing thinking it’s just another horny clicker with fake choices and dead eyes. Then you get those glasses. Not sexy at first glance, more like something IT guy wears on his day off, but once you put them on, the whole vibe changes. The game turns into this mix of creeping and flirting where every girl you meet has some dirty little line of text hovering around her like a status update from her pussy. You look at a shy neighbor on the rooftop and, boom, you see she’s been secretly thinking about getting pinned against the rail and fucked raw under the stars. In the hallway you pass this office lady with big tits bouncing under her shirt, and the glasses calmly show you exactly how she likes a cock in her throat while she pretends she’s “busy with reports.” It feels wrong, hot, kind of pathetic, but I’m still sitting here at my desk half-hard behind my laptop, pretending I’m editing spreadsheets while I’m actually checking who wants to ride me next in the game.

The main guy is such a mess in a way I really like. He got destroyed by his first girl, then runs away to the military to forget he got used like a walking dildo and then dropped. That vibe sticks. He’s not some smooth porn hero from the start, but then the “Lens Lust” crap starts messing with him, and with you too. You pick quests that are basically their hidden fantasies, like “help her relax after work” and that suddenly turns into you on your knees licking her, her heels digging into your back, and her calling you a good boy while you push her legs apart and slam inside. Another one is this quiet girl pretending to be innocent, and the quest slowly escalates from just talking on the rooftop to her jerking you off with her tits, oil dripping between them while she keeps stealing glances at the door in case someone comes up. The animations give that little extra, like subtle hip movement and lips wrapping around the shaft, nothing super polished, but because of that it feels more like real porn you find at 2% volume at work than some shiny trailer. There is this thing no one talks about where you use points to basically tune your body and style, and suddenly the same girl who barely noticed you before is staring down at your bulge and biting her lip in the elevator. Watching your choices turn you from awkward loser into this confident, slightly controlling bastard who pushes girls to their knees, pulls their hair, fucks their throats and then watches them masturbate on his bed because he told them to is… yeah, it stays in your head when you go back to boring emails.

What caught me is how the game mixes the romance angle with some really blunt male domination. One minute you’re having this actually cute rooftop talk, she’s opening up about her past, and you feel like “ok, this is a date,” and twenty minutes later you’re shoving her panties aside and sliding into her while she tries not to moan too loud because someone might hear from downstairs. The harem thing sneaks up on you too, not like “here is your collection,” more like you realize you’ve got three different girls sending you messages at once and all of them, in their own way, basically want to taste your cum or feel it dripping out of them. There’s a voyeur bit where you sit with the glasses on and watch a girl touching herself when she thinks she’s alone, and you can’t decide if you feel like a bastard or a god, but you still keep watching. I do wish one of the side girls didn’t repeat the same blowjob animation in different clothes, it pulled me out of it for a second, but then there was this scene where you’re sitting on the couch, she’s between your legs, drool on her chin, her tits shaking while she bobs faster and faster, and honestly, my brain forgot to complain. Sometimes the English in the dialogue feels a little stiff and then suddenly it hits with a line like “I want you to use me like you never got to before,” and it just lands. The game is like that ex you know is bad for your mental health but you still stalk her Instagram on your lunch break and jerk off in the bathroom after. Not proud. Not sorry.

You’re this washed-up author who used to shit out bestsellers like it was nothing, then the magic just dies. No muse, no words, just a dry brain and a blinking cursor in Google Docs mocking you every day. Instead of fixing your life, you bolt back to your hometown and somehow land the job of academy director, which is wild because you absolutely don’t feel like an authority figure. You show up with Linda, the girl you’ve basically raised, and the whole place is full of cute students, teachers, and staff who look way too eager to “help” with your new workload. It starts pretty innocent, just walking around the campus, checking classes, getting a feel for the schedule, but the game keeps poking you with teasing scenes. A girl leaning over your desk a little too far during a meeting, Linda clinging to your arm in the corridor, the shy librarian blushing like crazy while giving you the keys to the archive. The corruption doesn’t slap you in the face at once, it slides in slowly like a hand creeping up a thigh under the table.

What I liked is how the game keeps pretending it’s about managing the academy, while you’re obviously steering every conversation into something more intimate. There’s a minigame where you’re supposed to “motivate” a lazy class by helping them prepare an exam, but if you push the right dialogue choices, you end up in this side room with one of the girls on her knees, sucking you off, still wearing her half-buttoned uniform like she just ran away from class. The way her head bobs while she looks up at you, that little animation loop feels dirty in a good way, especially when she pulls off for a second just to tease you with her tongue and call you “sir” in that fake innocent tone. Later, you can cum in her mouth or inside her pussy after you bend her over a pile of books and push in raw, and the game doesn’t pretend to be shy about showing the creampie slipping out. It’s actually kind of romantic in places too, which is weird to say about a route where you’re basically corrupting half the female cast. Some scenes with Linda feel way too sweet, like when she sneaks into your office at night with coffee, sits on your lap and just wants you to “relax” while grinding on you slowly until your self-control cracks. Then other moments are just pure filth, like a harem-style event in the dorm where two girls take turns sucking you, one deepthroating while the other kisses your shaft and plays with your balls, and you’re choosing who gets your load like it’s some reward ceremony.

It’s not perfect at all, and that’s kind of why it stuck in my head. The pacing jumps around like bad weather. One day you’re stuck in long, quiet story scenes about your past writing career, just clicking through dialogue, waiting for something spicy to happen, like watching a pot of soup that refuses to boil. Then out of nowhere, you get slammed with a chain of erotic scenes where you’re fucking in the infirmary, then in a classroom, then in your office, and it almost feels like a sex party you didn’t have time to dress for. Some of the minigames feel pointless, like this little “management” part where you juggle academy stats, but you’ll just end up clicking the same option to reach the next girl anyway. I wish they let the corruption go even deeper, like more scenes where a girl starts all shy and slowly turns into a total cock-hungry mess across several encounters, not just jumping from flirty to “please fill me up” in one go. But it still has that messy charm, like a horny Wattpad story that grew muscles and learned how to animate blowjobs. I kept telling myself I’d just check one more event, then suddenly I was watching another timid teacher wrap her lips around the MC and moan with her mouth full, and any thoughts about pacing or logic just kind of shut up.

This thing feels like someone tried to mix a messy romance novel with porn from xVideos and then just let it rot in their phone for a year before uploading it. In a good way. You play as a dude who keeps telling himself he’s a “good guy” while his dick is literally ruining every relationship around him. Half the time you’re trying to be sweet and romantic, sending nice messages and pretending to care about people’s feelings, and then ten minutes later you’re balls deep in a married woman on a hotel bed, watching her ahegao face in some awkward close up that looks way too real for comfort. The game actually leans hard into that cheating and swinging stuff, like “normal” relationships are almost background noise. There’s always some line to cross, some husband who thinks everything is under control, some wife who swears this is “only curiosity” while she begs for anal and her voice texts are still open in the corner of the screen.

The mobile side of it matters more than I expected. I was playing on my phone in the bathroom at work, WhatsApp popping up at the same time the in‑game chat was buzzing, and I legit almost answered the wrong woman. There’s a lot of scenes that feel like modern texting: late night horny messages, blurry selfies, the “I shouldn’t be doing this, but…” kind of energy. You move from scene to scene like you’re scrolling a feed, and the 3D characters look just a bit too polished for how dirty the situations get. One milf in particular, she has that slightly tired face, small wrinkles around the mouth, perfect thick ass, and the game just keeps throwing her back at you in new outfits until you finally stop pretending you’re not going to fuck her. There’s a great moment where you’re at some “respectable” gathering that quietly turns into a soft swinging scenario. First you’re just being polite, then you’re grabbing another guy’s wife by the hips while your own date is getting double penetrated on the couch behind you, her makeup completely ruined, tongue out, eyes rolled. No one even calls it an orgy, it just escalates like it was always supposed to end there. The weird part is, sometimes it tries to be emotional in the middle of all that. You make a choice that hurts someone who actually cared, and right after that the game throws a group sex scene at you that feels a little too empty, like it wants you to feel how the MC is just using people now. Or maybe I’m just overthinking porn again. Whatever. The sex hits hard, the kissing actually looks good, and the story keeps pretending it’s about “boundaries” while everyone in it keeps breaking them in the most explicit way possible.